Video: 2007 Leonard Cohen Interview – Personal Changes, Life As Zen Monk, The Pilfering Of His Money, Al Gore & Anjani


Leonard Cohen & Anjani Thomas Appear On  2007 Norwegian Talk Show

This video covers the appearance of Leonard Cohen and Anjani Thomas as guests on the March 30, 2007 edition of “Først & sist” (“First & last”), the Norwegian talk show hosted by Fredrik Skavlan.1 (A second video of Anjani singing Innermost Door on the program is no longer available.)


Left to Right: Al Gore, Leonard Cohen, Fredrik Skavlan ( host,) Anjani Thomas, and Gro Harlem Brundtland

My recommendation of this interview segment is based in large part on Cohen’s low-key explanations of the reasons he devoted a few years to living in a Zen monastery on Mount Baldy and the events surrounding the pilferage of his retirement fund, both of which demystify the circumstances without denying the significance of the episodes.

As always, Cohen is well-spoken, poised, and witty, especially in regard to his loss of his retirement fund of several million dollars.

Money has a way of disappearing if you don’t watch it very, very closely.  That’s a certain wisdom I acquired. I wasn’t absolutely certain of this [before the loss], but now I am. It’s enough to put a dent in your mood.

[Responding to the host’s observation that Cohen seems “quite happy” despite having very little money following the loss:]  Well, I don’t recommend this as a spiritual exercise, …

As I’ve pointed out, beginning with the first Cohencentric post that addressed a Cohen interview, Leonard Cohen exercises the poet’s prerogative of re-interpreting and manipulating her [the interviewer’s] words and his own to distract and deflect. A trivial but nonetheless amusing example follows:

Leonard Cohen: I always thought I would change my name and get a tattoo

Interviewer: Where?

Leonard Cohen: There’s this place on St. Lawrence Blvd.

The interviewer’s facial expression at that point is a bonus.

As one might expect, Cohen has, in the 39 years that separate the two interviews, become more subtle and sophisticated in his technique, but he still shepherds the conversation into the path he chooses, content to follow the lead of the interviewer only if it fits his needs.  This is, I hasten to add, invariably a benefit to the quality of the interview.2

norr4Two brief Cohen expositions are worthy of special note:

1. In a few sentences, he makes Al Gore, who is also a guest on the show, sound principled rather than ponderous and spiritual rather than self-righteous. Mr Gore, unfortunately, proves himself equally efficacious in undoing this rehabilitation when he responds to Cohen’s comments.

2. An interesting contrast exists between Cohen’s characterization of his relationship with Anjani in this interview and that contained in his introduction of her in the video of the 1985 Kalvøya, Norway performance of “I Tried To Leave You.”The  1985 introduction follows:

Now we come to the girl I love, even though she has a mean streak. She translates that mean streak into passion and fire. That’s why I love her. The Pearl of the Pacific, from Honolulu, Hawaii, Ms Anjani Thomas.

Compare that with his response to the host’s phrase, “This is a long love story,” which was spoken simply as an invitation for Cohen to provide the history between Anjani and him. Instead, Cohen first finds it necessary, with notable stuttering and stops and starts,  to correct the improper application of  “love story” to the relationship:

It wasn’t always a love … It was an affectionate story for a long time, and it ripened into something deeper. But I found it’s best not to name a relationship.

It is important to acknowledge that this shift does not seem the consequence of any change in Cohen’s relationship with Anjani, to whom he appears deeply attached during the interview. In fact, just prior to his halting pronouncements on the nature of the connection, Cohen had spontaneously segued from Anjani as his backup singer to Anjani as his romantic partner:

I depended on that [Anjani’s] voice, I leaned on it, I slept on that voice.

Instead, the difference appears the result of Cohen’s insistence, which has intensified with age, of speaking in a knowledgeable manner only about matters concerning which he is indeed knowledgeable.

Leonard Cohen & Anjani Thomas On Først & sist, NRK, 2007


Anjani Sings “Thanks For The Dance”


Reflecting the power of ratings, the lion’s share of the interviewer’s attention is on Cohen. The primary question asked Anjani is, in fact, “How is it to work and live so close to Leonard Cohen?”

It turns out that “It’s a lot of fun.”

On the other hand, Anjani does a star turn on the show, performing “Thanks For The Dance.”

Update: As is apparent, Part 2 of Leonard Cohen & Anjani Thomas On Først & sist, NRK, 2007 has been removed by the YouTube user. I have sent a message asking that the segment be restored but have received no response. As far as I can determine, the video is not available elsewhere.

Note: Originally posted Aug 10, 2009 at, a predecessor of Cohencentric


  1. The other two guests are American environmental activist and former vice president Al Gore and Gro Harlem Brundtland, who from 1984-87 was chairman of the UN’s World Commission on Environment and Development (also former prime minister of Norway and director-general of the World Health Organization). []
  2. One of the several reasons I desperately long to interview Leonard Cohen is my conviction that, if I can muster the presence of mind to stutter out a discernible query of any sort (currently, I’m thinking of going with “So, Leonard, how’s tricks?”), the interview will be a pristine, elegant discussion of whatever Cohen wanted to talk about – which would be the same result regardless of what I had asked, so it would be, as they say, all good. []

Leonard Cohen On Anjani’s “voice drop[ping] from her throat to her heart”

I knew Anjani [Thomas] as a studio singer, and she would always do exactly what was appropriate to whatever song she was working on. She worked very quickly. Pitch perfect. But I never thought of her as a soul singer, as a heart singer. At a certain moment, her voice dropped from her throat to her heart. I heard it. I asked her to sing a song I wrote on my last record, and she sang it in her studio voice. I said—I don’t remember what I said, I thought I was Cecil B. DeMille for a second—but apparently I said the right thing. She sang and the next tape had that voice you hear on Blue Alert. That’s when the revelation began for her. And you know, you’re reluctant to acknowledge real excellence, you don’t want to make anything of it, you’ve got various fears…but this was irresistible.”quotedown2

Leonard Cohen

A Teacher of the Heart: Leonard Cohen Shares the Wealth by Pat McGuire (Filter Magazine. June 26, 2007)

Note: Originally posted Dec 7, 2012 at, a predecessor of Cohencentric

Why Leonard Cohen Got A Violinist In 2012 Instead Of 2008, The Chinese Tour Proposal & More

mmphNote: Originally posted Mar 27, 2014 at, the predecessor of Cohencentric

Alex Bublitchi Interview: Recruitment, Rivals, Tour Plans, His Violin, …

„Trăiesc unul dintre cele mai minunate momente ale vieții“ Interviu cu Alexandru Bublitchi by Larisa Turea, Valeriu V. Turea is a lengthy interview with violinist, Alex Bublitchi, who joined the Leonard Cohen Tour in 2012.  The interview was published in the Nov 2012 issue of Observator Cultural. The interview was conducted and posted in Romanian. The excerpts below were generated by first processing the text with Google Translate and then editing the result into vernacular English.  The headings were not part of the original article but were created and added by me for reading convenience. Finally, much of the original interview, including, for example, content about  Bublitchi’s violin, his training, and Cohen’s personal praise of his work, is not included below but is accessible at the link.

“Who is the boy with the violin?”
The Recruitment Of Alex Bublitchi

Interviewer: Tell us how you Cohen recruited you.


Mario Mas

Alex Bublitchi: Well, life is interesting. I played in the theater orchestra but always wanted to do something special, especially something other than classical music. I played ​​in Barcelona with a friend by the name of Mario Mas. We played the Flamenco song he wrote, that is to say world music. I made ​​a little demo for Mario and his father, Javier Mas, an exceptional musician.

Interviewer: One of the most famous guitarists in the world.

Alex Bublitchi: Right. Javier listened and wondered “Who is the boy with the violin?” Mario said, ” A friend ” and Javier asked for my phone number. He contacted me and told me he has two projects with music by Leonard Cohen. [Javier Mas was the musical director and arranger of Leonard Cohen’s tribute concerts in Barcelona in both 2006 and 2007.] He asked me if I know who Leonard Cohen is. I answered honestly that I have no idea. This happened in 2005-2006. Then he asked me to meet and bring my violin. He spoke about his Cohen project, and I talked about music. He asked me if I can improvise. I said yes, and he asked me if I could help him with the project. And I accepted, even though it meant that he had to lie to the service because the theater had me under contract. I was on vacation, I had a program to perform … But I wanted very much to participate in Javier’s project so I told them that I am worn out. It took a bit of theater, but I finally got out of the situation. They gave me two weeks off, said hurry back. I said good-bye, got into a car, and we went straight to rehearsal …

Interviewer: The theater later found out?

Alex Bublitchi: No … Maybe they found out, but they did not say anything. The project was well publicized. I was trying to hide. In many photos, everyone else smiles but I’m just a dude standing to the side with his hand over his face. No one from the theater said anything to me about it, but it’s curious that the day after the project, I got a call, asking “Feeling better?” “Yes …” “Good, come to work.”

Alex Bublitchi Meets Anjani Thomas Who Mentions Leonard Cohen’s Unrequited Search For Violinist

Anjani Thomas

Anjani Thomas

At that project, I was introduced to Anjani Thomas, Cohen’s faithful collaborator, who arrived with his son, Adam Cohen. We did a rehearsal and Anjani said, “You know, Leonard has been looking for a violinist for many years, but he can’t find one.” I, believing these stories are molded from a glass of wine, said yes, yes … But she continued, “Look, could it be …” To which I replied that, in principle, in theory, yes, I would be interested. Afterward, it seemed a nice thought, a kind word as an excellent project ended with everybody happy. That was in the summer.

The next winter, we launched a project again, a kind of Spanish Tour with Cohen’s music sung by Spanish stars, using arrangements by Javier Mas, our musical director. This gave Cohen’s original songs a Mediterranean flair, so to speak – The Gypsy ‘s Wife in a gitano flamenco singing style. It was intriguing and interesting. Master liked it very much, I realized.

Anjani and Adam Cohen said Leonard would like to go on tour and more than likely the original members of the band would accompany him on tour …

My life continues; it’s business as usual. Javier is gone.

Auditions For Tour Violinist: Christine Wu

Christine Wu

Christine Wu

Cohen began rehearsals and auditions for a violinist in the U.S. Many came and played. The audition was won by a very talented lady, Christine Wu,1 a great classical violinist. but perhaps not given to improvisation. Here you have to be very flexible. For example, when you start to play, they tell you, play something, look, in the middle of this song, come on, play something, but play it like this, you know … And clearly , if you did not improvise like a jazz player, you lose … I mean, I never played jazz seriously, but I listened to it all the time. I was always a jazz enthusiast, but if you are not trained this way, then you don’t know how to do it … Unfortunately, many musicians practicing classical music just read the notes. However, they accept it. But after two weeks when it seemed they were satisfied with her performance, Cohen said, “Thanks, but we won’t need you … ” It was a tremendous blow. She had already signed a contract and, I believe, then sued. Finally, it was resolved.

Auditions For Tour Violinist: Rafi Hakopian

They called a famous Armenian violinist, Rafi Hakopian, who played with Cohen in the ’70s and ’80s. Curiously, he does not speak a word of English although he has lived in Los Angeles for about 40 years. He came with his son, who translated, and played what he wanted. Cohen said, “Look, we have an arrangement. Please play here and do not play here.” He said, “Yes, yes” and played everywhere. Again, after two weeks, it was “Thanks, but this is not what we need.”

Call The Guy From Moldova

Then Cohen visited Javier and said, “You know, I’ve listened to the recording made ​​in Spain, I liked the arrangements, everything was great. That violin boy … who is he?” “Well, he’s a guy from Moldova who plays in Barcelona … ” “Call him and ask him if he wants to come.” Javier called me and explained the situation, finally asking if I want to come … I was in the Asturias, where I had to play in a concert with the orchestra, so I say, “Obviously I want to come …”

International Complications Arise

I was contacted by Cohen’s lawyers, who told me that he’s very difficult to contact, that there are several “filters.” I explained that, as a native of a country that is not a member of the European Community, there will be difficulties … But the Americans said, “We will be careful to do this correctly,” i.e., going through the proper court procedures … It is clear that the I will have to end my work in the theater, I could not combine the two activities … I said, “Thank you very much, I absolutely loved working here for three great years, but now I want to do something else.” I went to Madrid and at first, it was easy. I quickly obtained the U.S. visa. Complications arose when it came to visas for the UK, New Zealand, Canada, and Australia. No reasons were given for the refusals. One of the managers told me later it was impossible and they could not do anything despite a huge effort.

2008: Violin Out; Saxophone In

At that time, it was decided not to take a violinist on tour. Instead, a guy who played saxophone and many other wind instruments [Dino Soldo] played the solos written for violin . Anyway, it was well received by the public, everything was fine …

Violin Forgone But Not Forgotten

But the traditional songs of mourning need to be played by a violin … Leonard Cohen’s paternal grandfather’s birthplace was somewhere in Poland in the former Russian Empire … the violin fits his soul exactly.

The Tour was to last a year but went so well that it went on for three years instead. The Tour ended, and I went on with my life, they with theirs. Meanwhile, I have received Romanian citizenship.

Leonard Cohen Picks Up Prince Of Asturias Awards & Violinist

One day Javier calls me and says, “Look, the Spaniards are giving Leonard Cohen the Prince of Asturias Award [The ceremonies attendant to the Leonard Cohen’s Prince Of Asturias Award took place in Oct 2011], and the Prince of Asturias Foundation wants us to perform a concert paying tribute that he will attend.” …”Yeah, no problem, with great pleasure.” And so I joined this project featuring violin, lute, Spanish guitar, percussion, and two girls singing. It sounded great.

He came, accepted his award, and listened to our concert. And then I think he realized what he left behind. After the concert, he approached each of us. He shook hands with me, and in his ​​serious voice said, “Beautiful playing, Alex. Beautiful.” And I looked down, as if I were embarrassed, ashamed of something. I did not even look at him … maybe because of what had happened previously. I thanked him but I kept wondering how to tell him that I now had a Romanian passport …

Alex Bublitchi Joins The Band

Afterward, the lawyers called to inquire about my legal situation as a new project was underway. I told them everything was fine, no problems getting visas, “so we can start … if you want …” Now, everything happened very fast. rehearsals were scheduled to begin on June 15, but we were all so excited and wanted to meet quickly. I arrived on May 2nd, and we met the next day … He’s extremely sensitive, stylish, and speaks very warmly. He said, “I’m glad you came, you know us by now.”

At the first rehearsal, we did not just replay the same songs. Rather our approach was sitting and talking for a time. Leonard began to play his guitar and to murmur something. The saxophonist sat nearby and began to play along with him. I took my violin and I sat. Then he continues the song, and when the time comes to improvise, he stares at someone. It sets the tone. He looks at me, nods his head, and I start to play, to improvise. He continues one stanza, again looking at me, I play again – the same song, repeating the verse. I thought that I would give way to another instrument, but he is looking at me a third time so I try to improvise something different. We all played and played. It took about ten minutes, it stretched out. Finally , he removed his glasses and said, ” Friends, this will be something extraordinary.” And everyone cheered … It was a kind of baptism by fire. You know, sometimes it happens that all the musicians are very good, but it just doesn’t work. But we knew that in this case there was a fantastic, special chemistry. I could not imagine anything better.

2013 Concerts Planned In South America, South Africa Three Year Tour Contract Extension?

Interviewer: And you signed on for a limited period …

Alex Bublitchi: Right. The contract is for 18 months. Obviously it all depends on his health … and after 18 months if all goes well, it is possible to extend up to three years. After the North American tour, there are concerts planned in South America, South Africa, all continents … He says: “We have to follow the sun.” At concerts in Dublin, I played outdoors in incredible cold, my breath turning to steam. Heaters were blowing hot air, but we still had to play dressed for winter. It was miserable. Leonard handled it very well, the rest of us not so well, H is durable physically, does meditation, arises early, eat little. He has a Japanese Zen teacher named Roshi, who is 105 years old.


The Chinese Tour Offer
But There’s A Catch

Interviewer: Will you play venues other than, let’s say, traditional European locations … Asian, for instance?

Alex Bublitchi: Leonard Cohen has received offers from China, but probably will not go, because the Chinese ask him to change the lyrics about Tienanmen Square, for example, and he will not change the lyrics. India has made proposals for concerts. .. We plan to return to Europe in a year with a tournament. Then, we plan to hold concerts in USA, Canada, Australia, New Zealand, South Africa, and maybe South America.

Credit Due Department: The photo atop this post was taken by Maarten Massa at the 2013 Leonard Cohen Bercy concert The photo of Anjani Thomas was found at her website. The image of Christine Wu is a video screenshot. A special thanks goes to Laurence from Paris who alerted me to this article.


  1. An interesting video featuring an interview with Christine Wu along with samples of her performances can be viewed at Christine Wu Video. []

Blue Alert – A Recommendation That Will Make You Want To Kiss Me


DrHGuy Finds Anjani And Blue Alert

In many ways, it was a day like any other. While browsing for merchandise at Amazon to nudge my total order over the $25 criterion to qualify for that all-important free shipping, I happened onto Blue Alert, the album by Anjani Thomas that I recalled had received some coverage in the pop music press because it was produced by Leonard Cohen. Being a full-fledged member of the Cohen cohort, I had casually planned to check it out and this accidental encounter seemed a serendipitous opportunity.

But you know how these set-ups never work out. Your best friend in high school introduces you to his cousin from Kansas City so you go out a few times but never really click. Then you go out a few more times and before you know it, you marry her – and then your life descends into a living hell that makes you long for the sweet release only death can bring. For example.

But hope, as it is wont to do, springs eternal so I was thought it was possible that Anjani and I might have a few laughs together in the form of three or four tracks enjoyable enough to justify transferring ten bucks from me to Jeff Bezos. Admittedly, I was only looking for a good time, not a long term relationship. But, hey, she was hanging out with Leonard Cohen so she was probably into that sort of thing, right?

Then, my interest was piqued by a phrase from Amazon’s Editorial Review of the album, which described Blue Alert as

… a collection of gentle music tinged with styles ranging from Holly Cole to Tanita Tikaram

As it turns out, folks in proximity to me for more than 20 minutes are at substantial risk of being subjected to my adulation of Tanita – if they have survived my even more fervid adoration of Holly.1 When I read that implicit grouping of Anjani, Holly, and Tanita, my mind raced to the obvious conclusion – that’s right, I’m thinking foursome.

Why You’re Going To Want To Kiss Me2


My jejune sexual fantasies notwithstanding, this is music that is lovely, intricate, and intoxicating.

Many reviewers use adjectives such as “gentle,” “mellow,” and “low [amplitude],” to describe this album. It is true that one is unlikely to mistake Anjani’s contralto singing for a performance by Judas Priest or Iron Maiden. Such characterizations, however, are misleading in that they connote a semi-jazzy CD one plays as background music when the boss comes for dinner because it’s unobtrusive.

Such a categorization would be a tragedy. This is, in fact, an album that deserves to be played, especially the first time, when one has the time and psychological energy to hear the music and listen to the lyrics. Lord, now I’m making it sound like an intellectual task or, worse, an assignment. Let me reframe that: You (and you know who you are) deserve to listen to this album, especially the first time, when you have the time and psychological energy to hear the music and listen to the lyrics. Anyone that knows me knows that this is not a suggestion I make casually. (While I’m writing this post, for example, I’m also auditioning some new songs from a group called Let’s Be Honeys, checking CNN Headline News, and monitoring the clock to assure that I roust the offspring for chores in timely fashion.)

Lenny & Anji

OK, I know you’re wondering so let’s get it out of the way. It’s no secret (heck, even the Knight Ridder News Service knows it) that she was a keyboardist and backup singer for Cohen for 14 years and, yep, his lover for six of those years.

The tipping point for making this album, according to Anjani, came after she finished a vocal of one of Cohen’s songs; then, “Leonard said to me, ‘Now, could you sing it like you’re devastated on a shore with nothing left to give?”3 Anjani goes on that “All my tools went out the window, I actually was devastated at that point. Then the vocal just came out.”

Well, thank goodness she was devastated. The official Amazon blurb tells the rest of the story

After finding a few lines of Cohen’s handwritten lyrics lying on his desk one day (specifically “there’s perfume burning in the air/bits of beauty everywhere”), Anjani was not just drawn to them, the words inspired her to write a song in their honor (“Blue Alert”). After hearing the result, the Order of Canada-winning poet was so impressed that he eventually allowed her the chance to cull through both his published and unpublished works for additional lyrics.


The Music

In any case, Anjani’s husky, lovely voice and Cohen’s new (or previously unrecorded) lyrics4 are a perfect fit.

While Blue Alert stands independently as an album and is wonderful as an isolated phenomenon, it is enriched if the listener has some experience with Cohen’s own performances of his work. There is an obvious contrast between Anjani’s assured voice and Cohen’s. One of Cohen’s saving graces is his straightforward recognition and acknowledgment of the quality of his vocalizations, which he distinguishes as “a different kind of activity” than singing. Yet, it seems to me that the honesty of Anjani’s voice evokes Cohen’s own. (Oops, I’m not the only one. In skimming for another factoid, I just found this, arguably more poetic, quote from Brian Johnson, “And though Cohen doesn’t sing a note on the album, his voice permeates it like smoke.” Yeah, what he said.)

In addition, many of the motifs, metaphors, and metaphysics from Cohen’s earlier corpus are, unsurprisingly, prominent in Blue Alert. “[I] Had to do time in the tower” from “Crazy To Love You,” for example, echoes the lines from Cohen’s “Tower Of Song,” and “Thanks For The Dance” is reminiscent of “Dance Me To The End Of Love” and, to my ears at least, seems almost a direct response to “Do I Have To Dance All Night” (See The Best Leonard Cohen Song You’ve (Probably) Never Heard)


Love is, indeed, the focus of Blue Alert, and Cohen’s words are of a piece with the sensibilities of his earlier work. He is ambiguous and ambivalent but never ambagious. Love is everything and not enough to save us. And the sex is good, too.

Enough blathering.


Some of the lyrics are so damn good, I can’t think of a better way to close than to list a few lines unencumbered by my annotations.

From “Blue Alert”

Visions of her drawing near
Arise, abide, and disappear
You try to slow it down; it doesn’t work
It’s just another night I guess
All tangled up in nakedness
You even touch yourself
You’re such a flirt
Blue Alert

From “Half The Perfect World”

Transparent, weightless, luminous
Uncovering the two of us
On that fundamental ground
Where love’s unwilled, unleashed
And half the perfect world is found

From “The Mist”

As many nights endure
Without a moon or star
So will we endure
When one is gone and far

“Thanks For The Dance”

Thanks for the dance
I’m sorry you’re tired
The evening has hardly begun
Thanks for the dance
Try to look inspired
One two three, one two three one

And there’s nothing to do
But to wonder if you
Are as hopeless as me
And as decent

We’re joined in the spirit
Joined at the hip
Joined in the panic
Wondering if
We’ve come to some sort
Of agreement


So, listen to a song or two.

Anjani – Thanks For The Dance (Lyrics by Leonard Cohen)

Anjani Thomas – Blue Alert (Lyrics by Leonard Cohen)


If you like those, buy the album and listen to full tracklist.


girl-726259_1280Pucker up, Buttercup.


Anjani and Anjani Thomas: An Aside On Names

Anjani and Anjani Thomas are, for the purposes of the Heck of a Guy blog, synonymous names, both of which refer to the exotically lovely, dulcet-voiced singer best known for her Blue Alert CD and her long-term relationship with Leonard Cohen. I include this clarification on posts about Anjani-Anjani Thomas in part for the purpose of what the folks at Wikipedia call disambiguation (i.e., to positively identify for the reader and remove any doubts the reader might have about which Anjani of all the possible Anjanis is being discussed) and in part to aid and abet the search engines. While a rose is, famously, a rose is a rose, a “tea rose,” for example, is not exactly the same as a “rose” – especially to a search engine. Searches that include “Anjani” as part of the search terms may not produce the same results as the same search terms other with “Anjani Thomas” substituted for “Anjani.” Should any other Anjani, say one who has not produced a CD called “Blue Alert” or one who has not been associated with Leonard Cohen for the decade, I promise to do my best to make that identification clear as well.


  1. Both Holly Cole and Tanita Tikaram are subjects worthy of their own posts. And DrHGuy has not forgotten his promise/threat to post features about Leonard Cohen, the uses of poetry, and other topics, not to mention such thus far unmentioned but worthy themes as the comparative analysis of Paul Simon Vs Simon & Garfunkel, the list of female singers I want to sleep with even though I know they would hurt me and the chance of Tina Turner spending the night with me approximates zilch, the comfort and strength embedded in the poems of A.E. Housman, and the improbability of an adult American woman wearing a correctly sized bra unless she has been fitted for one by a lady of a certain age who speaks with a distinctive foreign accent. So much to blog, so little time. []
  2. “Kiss” in this setting is a statistical representation. This recommendation will evoke in some readers no more than a shrug of the shoulders while others will respond not only with kisses but with caresses, fondling, and maybe a bit of making out in addition. It will average out to a kiss. []
  3. I guess she didn’t know that Lenny is always saying stuff like that, just goofing around []
  4. Nightingale, the one previously recorded track, first appeared on Dear Heather but has been completely restructured and stripped of much gratuitous instrumental accompaniment, sounding as though it was were new []